The Anomalies Network : Home
Page 1 of 3 123>
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#158774 - 04/19/06 11:24 PM Climate Change in California
Olav Administrator Offline
Member
*****

Registered: 04/23/01
Posts: 1172
Loc: Somewhere - Northern Californi...
ok so I keep talking to friends and we've all been noticing something wierd going on.

So I move home from the UK (LAND OF RAIN) to CA, ok northern california where it is a little rainy and cold but hey its home.

Would you believe its rained basically every day since I got home in Feburary. We shattered all previous records for consistent days with rainfall..

http://www.10news.com/weather/8641509/detail.html

I've lived here for about 24 years and I've seen nothing like it. I mean I've seen el nino, la nina but nothing like this. EIther the weather machine is broken or our climate has gone crazy!

And its not just here. A few weeks ago a friend of mine in the UK told me that he had gotten a special present on his birthday (in late March) SNOW! I said wow...I guess that doesn't happen much. He said in the last 33 years (he's 33) its NEVER Happened.

Guys, climate change isn't a theory. I'm living in it!
_________________________
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem - William of Occam

Top
#158775 - 04/20/06 12:28 PM Re: Climate Change in California
Bastastic Offline
Member


Registered: 02/02/05
Posts: 182
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
I have to be honest, Arizona is drying up more and more every year. Phoenix was only two days away from breaking a record for most consective days without rain. It go so bad that Northern Arizona had to make their own snow to keep many ski resorts open to attract some tourist, if any. Currently it is 84 degress F and by the end of the day it might hit 90. We already had weeks of 90 degree weather and from what I hear it might be the upper 90's by next week! Something strange is happening indeed.
_________________________
Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?

Top
#158776 - 04/20/06 05:34 PM Re: Climate Change in California
Olav Administrator Offline
Member
*****

Registered: 04/23/01
Posts: 1172
Loc: Somewhere - Northern Californi...
Anyone else seeing temperature or weather changes?

- olav
_________________________
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem - William of Occam

Top
#158777 - 04/20/06 08:30 PM Re: Climate Change in California
PsycoJoe Administrator Offline
Member


Registered: 12/11/01
Posts: 1795
Loc: Michigan
Urmm...you are aware that Winter is just now over and things are starting to warm up?

Seriously, I have reason to believe that the world is entering a warming period. A natural warming period. It wasn't that long ago, geologically speaking, that this planet left a 'global winter' (also called an 'ice age'). These things last tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of years. It gets cold globally, not just in the neighborhood. Now 'winter' is over and 'summer' is on the way. Man-made global warming is a boojum, a will-o-whisp. It's what ecologists threaten their children with if they don't eat their organically grown veggies.

Really, it's only been about 10-15,000 years since the last ice age, and it lasted longer than that. What did they think would happen when the glaciers receded? Do temperatures remain below freezing after the snows of winter melt?

Top
#158778 - 04/21/06 05:01 PM Re: Climate Change in California
Bastastic Offline
Member


Registered: 02/02/05
Posts: 182
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
PsychoJoe,

Greetings!

quote:
Urmm...you are aware that Winter is just now over and things are starting to warm up?

Should have seen that one coming. LOL

I do have to agree with you though. The Earth has its own of way dealing with things and it seems that if people don't understand that they make up some mumbo-jumbo to scare everyone. However; I must say that we aren't exactly taking care of mother nature that well, but I doubt that has any effect on the temperature, or any other climate changes.
_________________________
Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?

Top
#158779 - 04/21/06 05:32 PM Re: Climate Change in California
Phil Fiord Administrator Offline
Administrator
Member


Registered: 06/11/01
Posts: 3777
Loc: Washington DC, but don't let i...
Well, Time Magazine did a graphical report on a survey of opinion on earth temperature as related to global warming and the results are interesting.

The first graphic directly relates to this question of "is it getting warmer?"

If it is warmer, that means rain for some and drought for others. Of course, it can mean oddly distributed surface temps all over and records being broken, keeping in mind records only go back so far.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1176975,00.html





_________________________
"Perception is the art of defining reality. Be careful who you allow to define it."

Top
#158780 - 04/24/06 02:47 AM Re: Climate Change in California
Wallis Offline
Member
****

Registered: 03/05/02
Posts: 1754
Loc: Philippines
If I were more of a devotee to the sciences, I might have kept yearly records. "Everyone complains about the weather, but no one does anything about it," Mark Twain. Folks both here in the PI and back in Korea have always sung a version of the same tune: "It seems hotter (colder) this year, doesn't it?"

Before my friend passed away, we speculated on the possibilities of why the Korean climate seemed much milder, if not warmer. Most of us can be reminded of how cold it was during the Korean War through books, movies, and the popular M*A*S*H program. In the 20 years or so of my own personal experience in Korea, I really never experienced much cold. Yes, a few days of "bitterness," but nothing close to the stories (and they may be exaggerated) of winters past.

Not to disparage any other theories, my friend and I sought to intellectually (vice scientifically) envision any changes in the environment that could impact the weather. And so, I will present our "musings," if you will, and allow the community to pick them apart.

In the last nearly 60 years since the Korean War, Korea has steadily been building. Farm land has been greatly sacrificed to build cities of apartment buildings. Roads criss-cross everywhere, and they become wider and wider. Apart from the natural growth of human industry and the emissions generated with air conditioners and furnaces, the very earth has been transformed from soil and rock to concrete and asphalt. If earth and soil and rock are poor reflectors as well as poor absorbers of heat, and given the contrary that asphalt and concrete are great absorbers of heat and reflectors, we ponder whether the transformation of the earth itself has somehow lent to altering the weather patterns that affect Korea (in conjunction with other world changes, of course). It is interesting to note that while N. Korea often has terrible weather that would normally affect S. Korea as well, S. Korea appears to be less affected. Vis-a-vis the transformation S. Korea landscape as opposed to the lack of development in the North, it does lend some interest to the possibility, eh wot?
_________________________
"Do not seek for truth,
Merely cease to cherish your own ideas and opinions."

Top
#158781 - 04/24/06 12:30 PM Re: Climate Change in California
Bastastic Offline
Member


Registered: 02/02/05
Posts: 182
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
When was the last time it was 100 degrees F in your part of the world....AT NIGHT! With the way this city is growing, nights are becoming more and more warmer than usual. I remember 5 years ago when the overnight temperature exceeded 98 no more than a handful times. Last summer, it seemed almost everynight it was at least 100. With all the new roads being built, along with the the buildings I can say that it is cooler out in the middle of the desert than it is downtown. But as mentioned before, the increase is not due to "greenhouse gases". It is mainly due to the fact the we are growing.
_________________________
Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?

Top
#158782 - 04/24/06 03:52 PM Re: Climate Change in California
Olav Administrator Offline
Member
*****

Registered: 04/23/01
Posts: 1172
Loc: Somewhere - Northern Californi...
I think its a combination of thigns. But what I'm seeing is not warmer or colder is just warmer or colder at inappropriate times.

The rain I've seen since I got home is nothing like I've seen in 25 years. Ina lot of ways (when I was in the UK included) the weather went nuts.

I think its expansion but also greenhouse gases with natural processes.

For example the Atlantic Canyaor belt

http://www.grida.no/climate/vital/32.htm


has been slowing. When that stops we have issues.

http://www.firstscience.com/site/articles/gribbin.asp

NOw at this point we can argue about the cause, lights, cars, people, natural or whatever but what we cannot debate is the change. The climate is changing around us. Natural or otherwise I can safely say this year was the first time I've seen or rather felt it in action!

My question is what kind of changes has everyone else been seeing or am I just nuts?

- olav
_________________________
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem - William of Occam

Top
#158783 - 04/24/06 04:47 PM Re: Climate Change in California
PsycoJoe Administrator Offline
Member


Registered: 12/11/01
Posts: 1795
Loc: Michigan
A few years ago there was the unseasonably warm weather in Michigan. ('Unseasonably warm'....understatement for a 90 degree February.) Two years ago, thunderstorm trains over the Continental US. Last year there was the record number of hurricanes. Yes, weather patterns are changing (not that you can tell where I'm at) but I think mankind's contribution to all this is a drop in the ocean.

The great conveyor will probably be affected, but I doubt it will stop completely. I see the Pacific, Indian, and Atlantic Oceans having their own belts, with a 'great current' around Antarctica acting as a circulator.

Top
Page 1 of 3 123>


Moderator:  PsycoJoe, Ace1 
Hop to:
Search
Who's Online
0 registered and 5 anonymous users online.
July
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3
4 5 6 7 8 9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30 31
Shout Box

Forum Stats
3968 Members
61 Forums
15901 Topics
250083 Posts

Max Online: 327 @ 08/09/07 03:54 PM
Top Posters
6973
Rick Donaldson
5837
Sean Osborne
4624
TheFlowerKing
4583
Darby
4218
R.F. Burns

Generated in 0.108 seconds in which 0.025 seconds were spent on a total of 14 queries. Zlib compression enabled.

If you need assistance please email us at info@anomalies.net .
© 1993-2010 The Anomalies Network All Rights Reserved. Original Web Design Concept © 2007 CNN - Adapted to AnomaliesNetwork needs/use.
GNU Free Documentation License - Some items on this site were sourced from documents which fall under the GNU Free Documentation License.
FAIR USE NOTICE: This page may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. This website distributes this material without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. We believe this constitutes a fair use of any such copyrighted material as provided for in 17 U.S.C § 107.The owners,operators, and authors do not necessarily adhere to,or endorse,any or all of the links, stories, articles, editorials,or products offered by sponsors found on this site, or broadcast on any affiliated broadcast. All of the materials and data offered on this site, and on any affiliated broadcast, are for informational and educational purposes only.
Centos/Apache/PHPPowered by EM3 iOn