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#161404 - 07/29/05 06:40 PM Re: Sitchin Related Archeology/News
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Hello Wallis

Isn't the Japanese word for God Tentei or Jouten?

I also thought the Chinese for God was Shang di or Shen di?

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#161405 - 07/29/05 06:46 PM Re: Sitchin Related Archeology/News
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Oh yes forgot to mention that there are large numbers of mounds in China, Korea and Japan. Some are quite immense in size.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:KofunTumulus.JPG

http://web-japan.org/atlas/historical/his15.html

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#161406 - 07/31/05 05:28 PM Re: Sitchin Related Archeology/News
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There are several names for God in all three languages. I was merely referring to the commonality of one name.

BTW, in Chinese TGIF is: xiang di, xiang tian, jin tian shi libai wu. Which translates to thank the earth, thank the sky, today is the fifth day of the week.
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#161407 - 07/31/05 05:33 PM Re: Sitchin Related Archeology/News
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JW, I agree that there are mounds. I narrowed my comments to ziggarats and pyramids similar to Egypt and South America. I hit my head a couple of times and remember some discussion of pyramid like structures found in China.
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#161408 - 08/09/05 11:55 AM Re: Sitchin Related Archeology/News
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Hello Wallis

Well if you are going to build a structure that is higher than the surrounding area - it tends to look like a pyramids - or a mound.

From above "What I appreciate about Sitchin isn't his total accuracy, but for laying the foundation of a past that has been unknown. He has opened some doors and ideas that are worth substantiating."

Considering his shocking LACK of accuracy, lack of supporting evidence and lack of anyone supporting his claims, why would anyone find his fictional writings to be "foundations". Foundations of what? Its been thirty years - where is the substatiating? Where are the archaeological habitation levels? Where are the mines? Where in fact is anything?

Archaeologists have found the camp sites of the Lewis and Clark expedition. They've found where the Viking camps were in America. They found the bones and tools of pre-humans from a million + years ago but not a scrap of material from how many tens of thousands of years of the alleged Annunaki control of the earth?

Bad luck or just nothing to find?

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#161409 - 12/07/05 03:26 AM Re: Sitchin Related Archeology/News
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4505516.stm

Well another pieces falls into place for rise of man - how strange that it has nothing to do with the Annunanki...LOL

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#161410 - 12/07/05 04:56 AM Re: Sitchin Related Archeology/News
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Ah, but interesting evidence pointing to a possible change in Earth's orbit, or a possible change in the tilt of Earth's rotational axis, or a possible change in the location of the spin axis - a la Velikovsky's theories re LATER times. Whichever change(s) of Earth, the ROOT cause may have been a "crossing" of Niburu - a la Sitchin???

The Anunnaki were mining gold in Africa 450,000 years ago and replaced themselves with Man some 300,000 years ago. The major gold veins were likely worked out long before 70,000 years ago and the sites (and humans?) abandoned when they began gold mining operations in the Americas.

There were 10,000 "Eves"??? Sounds like someone was running a cloning operation or some other kind of genetic factory to produce humans???

Rather than interpret the sentimental sediments in support with the Establishment's "Out of Africa Migration Theory", might those "seas" have been - instead of drought-produced - suddenly "boiled dry" by the hydrocarbon-fueled tail of a passing comet???

The article did NOT mention any scientific wild-a**ed guess as to the CAUSE of the theoretical LONG-term drought, nor mention any CONCURRENT evidence from any other part of the planet. "Hey, it sorta fits OOA - let's run with it!"

My favorite Out-of-Africa is Charlize Theron.
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#161411 - 12/08/05 01:50 AM Re: Sitchin Related Archeology/News
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Howdy Mr. P

The Orbit of Earth is stable and has been for quiet a few hundred million years - movement would be detectable.

Unfortunately Niburu cannot exist in the solar system we live in, the facts, repeatedly found to be correct, don't allow for a careening planet - such a planet would leave detectable gravity anomalies. Such anomalies do not exist.

Sorry no Mr. P where is the evidence of massive gold mining in SA? Hundred of thousands of years of mining would leave a massive signature. If so where is it? The gold veins which were opened in the 19th century are still going strong and leave a detectable presence. Where are the Annunaki pit and tube mines? Rubble? Housing? Anything? Where did all these humans live?

It would be nice if someday someone actually found something from the 450,000 years of occupation...... but one thinks there is nothing to find.

Cycles of drought, weather and temperature seem normal for earth - it doesn't require mysterious aliens or invisable planets.

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#161412 - 12/08/05 08:11 PM Re: Sitchin Related Archeology/News
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I am now talking into a tin can, for all the good it will do.

Historians cannot agree to any degree of accuracy as to what particular events occurred this year. Yet, we are to accept unequivocably the word of scientists that the orbit of Earth has been stable for the past few hundred million years. Let's see: there must be some kind of codex around. Pictures, maybe? A secret library in the Himalayas that has recorded such a calm, relatively quiet period (or is that epoch) in Earth's past?

"Move aside, folks! Lord Knozitall has spoken. Catastropheism is all in the mind. Never happened. Never will. Destroy any reference to the 2004 tsunami: it might someday be used against the religion of 'nothing changes.' Earthquakes don't happen either. The notion that the earth can swallow up whole tracts of land is--well--something out of the fertile but insane mind of Frank L. Baum!"

Yeah, yeah. And the Sahara Desert is a "new" desert, its birth around 6,000 B.C. Palestine was always a desert, despite the fact that Caesar conducted a scorched-earth policy in the first century A.D. and created desert-like conditions. And tells are just garbage heaps and not remains of some pretty sophisticated military outposts or cities and what have you. Oceans haven't drowned continents, and glaciers have been over-exaggerated.

The orbit has been pretty stable, so Lord Knozitall has just called all those scientists who have written papers on the Earth's pole reversal liars. Oh, yes. And since the Earth's axis tilted just a few thousand years ago--well, at least less than a hundred thousand years ago--so they are all liars. Lessee, magnetic north has been changing in relative postion to the stars. Either the massive iron deposit is moving or the Earth is tilting. But then our infallible expert and mouthpiece for all the New Mythmakers has just stated gospel: the orbit of the Earth has not changed for millions of years! So, the iron deposit is moving!

Thus, too, all of the records of the ancients are a deep plot--or that of a really, really long joke, where the punch line just gets funnier and funnier all the time--against future generations. Stars don't change! They just made things up so they could--what?

But then these were ancients. Translation: really, really dumb people! Not a decent scientist in the midst of them. Not even a decent clockmaker either. I mean, who really needs to build a clock that is acres in size. Kind of hard to carry that thing around.

The bottom line appears to be to believe the pearls of wisdom by our expert par excellance who needs not back up any of this statements--no matter how outrageous--with gospel. No, no. No need for chapter and verse, for the scripture is still formulating in his own mind.
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#161413 - 12/08/05 11:06 PM Re: Sitchin Related Archeology/News
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Since when should one equate scientist with expert? Have you ever seen two seperate groups of scientists agree on the same thing that was outside of advanced mathematical calculations? Or even within for that matter? But we still rely on scientists to make our world stable in other ways. If not for them we'd still believe the world was flat and the Sun revolved around us. Not to mention we'd have no means to communicate these ideas on these forums we so enjoy.

Think of it as a scale. One side that holds everything they got right and the other which holds everything they got wrong. I'd say pretty balanced over the years. And remember this too. There used to be scientists way back when that believed all things were made of elements of water, air, fire, and earth rather than of matter. As correct or wrong as our own are today. But they helped to advance medicines and metalurgy for their times.

The great thing about science is that its flexible. While you have the individual scientist here and there that thinks all text books in his area are holy; most believe that every great advance has its setbacks, but plods forward none-the-less.

Your own views on what happened in the ancient past are based on the evidence you sought out rather than the evidence you uncovered. This is human nature for all of us. And it has been for all time. I'd be thoroughly shocked if someone here actually believed that the ancients didn't have the same conceits.

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