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A few months ago, I came across some interesting, and strange news.
The news articles (there were three or four of them at the time) explained how there were incidents of border patrol clashing with Mexican military. Over the course of several days I managed to verify this wish some people I personally know that work with the border patrol. Yes, indeed, these incidents occur, usually without much fanfare, or news coverage.
Some of these incidents are "different" though, and that is what I picked up on.
In February or so, I found out about a very specific kind of incident that occurred in Texas, and it was alleged the Mexican military members were actually either North Koreans or Chinese in Mexican Army uniforms. This being said, I looked for proof, but never could get in touch with those directly involved in the incident. In fact, at one point I was told "Drop it. This is a non-incident" by one man at an office in South Texas (I won't say where, or who at this point, as that isn't really important to this story).
What is important was the rest of the information, though seemingly unrelated, smacks of standard infiltration, and reconnisance.
What we did discover including a very specific incident (which I am still looking for the exact news article and will post it when I finish it) that occured in October 2000. Several border patrol agents were fired upon by these guys. These guys returned to Mexico without anyone being caught.
A few days later, a good distance away, in San Deigo, several illegal aliens told police authories of "Chinese and Cuba troops somewhere near Mexicalli". Hmmm... I kept searching.
In my searching I sent out letters to several people and posted notes on the internet regarding these eye witness accounts. At one point a man all the way up in Oregon, wrote to me and told me how some illegal aliens who were migrant farm workers told him about the "Cuban and Chinese troops". They thought they were Chinese but could have been Korean. He had first hand knowledge of the illegals, spoke to them regularly and knew some other interesting details.
One of the details included the fact that these "illegals" were taking their pay checks and spending large portions of them on camoflage uniforms at local surplus stores. He personally had taken one guy over to the post office to mail off several of these uniforms to somewhere near Mexicalli, Mexico. He didn't have the address with him, but knew that was where the man was from.
A couple days later, I received a very similar letter from a man up near San Francisco, with almost exactly the same story. Neither one of these two individuals knew each other, nor were they connected in anyway through the email lists I use and run. Both were independant stories that I can say "verify" one another, being they were unrelated people, from different places and separated by several hundred miles.
I began talking to some military buddies, who are tacticians. I asked, "If you were a foreign government, hostile to the US, how would you invade if you weren't going to use nukes".
Three different guys, came up with similar answers. I had already gone through this scenario myself to the extent that I expected it to be a ground force, hitting many locations. Small groups of men, can hit military bases and ports, as well as ports of entry and basically capture them. Doesn't have to be a LARGE force, but many small forces. Perhaps ten to two hundred strong.
The three different scenarios (which I won't go into in detail here now) were surprisingly similar. Essentially, the same as what I had come up with. Hit Brownsville, San Deigo (both port cities), hit El Paso, and several other places along there. Drive northward to places like Holloman AFB, Colorado Springs (Fort Carson, Cheynne Mtn/Norad, Peterson AFB, Academy and Schriever AFB... the home of NMD). There were other places. The truth is, it isn't difficult to take a military base. It will be DAMNED difficult to hold it. But taking one with a small force would be easy.
The border patrol and customs has put out the word that there are now bounties on their heads along the border. Probably this is related.
In March of this year, yet another story hit the news. I'll post it in the next message and promise to locate (if I can) the original stories that set me on this path.
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#214390 - 06/13/01 05:48 AM
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Border accident or bounty hunting? http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15326
Stories conflict as to why Mexican soldiers shot at U.S. border agents
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By Jon E. Dougherty
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Against a sinister backdrop of possible bounty-hunting by Mexican soldiers, U.S. Border Patrol officials say they are increasingly worried about "armed incursions" into U.S. territory by heavily armed Mexican army units, citing a recent incident in which Mexican soldiers chased -- then fired shots at -- Border Patrol agents.
The National Border Patrol Council, a nationwide union that represents all 8,250 "non-supervisory Border Patrol employees," said although the shooting aspect was unique, Mexican anti-drug police and specialized anti-narcotic army troops make routine "incursions" into U.S. territory.
On Mar. 14, shortly after 10 p.m. local time, "two Mexican army Humvees carrying about 16 armed soldiers drove across the international boundary and into the United States near Santa Teresa, New Mexico." There the vehicles pursued a Border Patrol vehicle, which was "outfitted with decals and emergency lights (that were activated for much of the pursuit) over a mile into the United States."
The lead Mexican army vehicle, the Border Patrol council said, contained nine soldiers "armed with seven automatic assault rifles, one submachine gun, and two .45 caliber pistols," and was eventually apprehended by other Border Patrol units. The second Humvee, however, "pursued a Border Patrol agent on horseback and fired a shot at him. The soldiers then disembarked their vehicle, fired upon one more Border Patrol agent and chased another agent before fleeing [back] to Mexico in their vehicle."
Union officials said the members of the lead Mexican army vehicle were debriefed and eventually allowed to return to Mexico with their arms and vehicle.
Though the incident "is the most serious to date," the council said, "it is but one of hundreds of incursions that have been reported over the past several years," and it has led union officials to call on Congress and the Clinton administration to deal with it.
"We will pursue all avenues to bring out the truth," said Martin L. Wilson, president of the Border Patrol union's Local 1929, which includes the Santa Teresa district. "We will not let this incident go away without looking for answers and changes for the betterment of the members of our local."
Martin said the agents involved had "promised to give us a first-hand account of the incident," and he emphasized that "this local has not called for the ouster of the (Border Patrol) chief (Gus de la Vina), regardless of what has been put out by outside groups."
Mariela Melero, regional spokesperson for the Immigration and Naturalization Service, based in Dallas, told WorldNetDaily high-level contacts with the Mexican government regarding the incident are in the works, but had no specifics. The Border Patrol is part of the INS, and both agencies fall under the jurisdiction of the Justice Department.
The El Paso, Texas Border Patrol office told WorldNetDaily, "in both instances, Mexican soldiers apparently were not aware they had crossed into U.S. territory." The El Paso office acknowledged that two shots had been fired by the Mexican soldiers, but said that after "Border Patrol agents identified themselves and explained" that the Mexicans were on U.S. soil, one of the Humvees carrying the soldiers "retreated" south while the occupants of the second vehicle "surrendered to the Border Patrol agents."
INS officials said that shortly after the incident, the Mexican colonel in charge of the two squads met with Luis Barker, chief Border Patrol agent in charge in El Paso.
"The Mexican colonel explained that the Mexican vehicles and officers were part of a counter-narcotics unit that had previously been working primarily in the interior of Mexico and were unfamiliar with border areas," INS said.
Paul M. Berg, chief of the Border Patrol Agent's Association, said that U.S. border officers had been caught armed in Mexico before as well, and so far U.S. officials have been able to negotiate their release "with their weapons over the outcry of the Mexican people, who wanted the agents prosecuted.
"The return of the (Mexican) soldiers will continue to build the relationships necessary to be able to accomplish this in the future," he said. Berg added that an "official protest has been lodged by the (U.S.) Ambassador to Mexico with the Mexican government and they will investigate."
Earlier, however, the Border Patrol agents' union alleged a far more sinister explanation for the shooting -- that the Mexican soldiers who shot at U.S. agents may have been attempting to collect a drug trafficker's bounty by killing U.S. law enforcement personnel.
"That was no accident," Joseph Dassaro, vice president of the National Border Patrol Council, told reporters in El Paso, Texas. "The Mexican military was well into U.S. territory for way over a mile and chased and fired at agents."
As confirmed by Border Patrol officials, the Juarez cartel, one of Mexico's biggest drug gangs, has indeed placed a bounty of $200,000 on U.S. lawmen.
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Jon E. Dougherty is a staff reporter and columnist for WorldNetDaily, and author of the special report, "Election 2000: How the Military Vote Was Suppressed."
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#214391 - 06/13/01 05:50 AM
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Alright found the first article. http://www.strategicjungle.com/scott/0102_01sg.html
Scott Gulbransen
Cubans May Be Active Near U.S-Mexican Border - 1/2/2001
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In another disturbing development, more foreign troops and military advisors have been reported near the U.S.-Mexican border near San Diego.
Several U.S. and Mexican officials have reported to the Strategic Jungle Syndicate over the past three weeks sightings and reports of Cuban military advisors in the area.
One Mexican law enforcement source said the heaviest activity and most sightings have occurred in between the Baja California border towns of Tijuana and Mexicali. Numerous reports of Cuban military officials emerging from the desert and countryside to buy supplies and run them back to remote camps have sprouted up since the beginning of October.
One Mexican official said the Cubans have become well known to the villagers due to their friendly demeanor and ability to pay top prices for supplies.
A Mexican factory worker stated her brother had been hired by a Cuban man out of Mexicali to help construct a retaining wall some 20 miles southeast of Mexicali.
“The men with my brother made nearly $300 to help build this wall in two
days,” the worker said. “They called the boss "Fidel' because he had a
beard just like Castro.”
The woman said two American men and one Asian male who all spoke Spanish and English accompanied the Cubans. All were dressed in military clothing. The Cubans wore olive green uniforms without markings and the Americans and Asian were wearing Mexican army fatigues.
“You can tell the Cubans because they speak so fast,” she said. “My brother said they had many tents and vehicles but everything was covered.”
When asked what people think about Cubans in Mexico, the factory worker shrugged it off.
“They seem to be doing something with the army so it's no big deal. They're nice and they have been spending a lot of money which is good for Mexicali.”
The reports of Cuban military personnel in Mexico come on the heels of an announcement last week between the Castro government and China. The agreement calls for more military cooperation between the two countries including joint military operational exercises and the sale of military hardware to the Castro regime.
American law enforcement sources also report continued sightings of Asian soldiers in border areas. After the Oct. 24, 2000, shooting incident involving Border Patrol agents and what appeared to be Chinese soldiers in Mexican army uniforms near Otay Mesa, sightings have increased but no further incidents have been reported.
“We continue to hear reports from illegals coming across the border that swear they have seen Chinese soldiers dressed like Mexicans,” a senior San Diego law enforcement officer said. “No one is paying attention but there is a core of officers who know what is going on and we're worried. Being an ex-military guy it scares the hell out of me.”
Due to the massive migration of illegal farm workers north to better paying jobs in the United States, word is now starting to leak out. Although no major mainstream media outlets have covered the story, people in the border regions from San Diego to the Texas Panhandle are growing concerned.
“We suddenly find ourselves in a situation where now two Communist nations have soldiers on our southern border,” the San Diego official said. “There are two questions you need to ask yourself: why isn't our government doing something and what are the Mexican's up to?”
With the popular shift in government in Mexico, the masses seem to be happy with their new president, Vincente Fox. But Fox's “globalization” mentality has many concerned that he may know of these troops within his country and is choosing simply to do nothing about it.
“Just as Americans were distracted by your election mess the people in Mexico are drunk on Vincente Fox,” the Mexican law enforcement official said. “They don't care what he's doing yet so no one is paying attention. It's still a party.”
The increased activity on the borders is becoming louder but is anyone listening?
“I really don't know what's going on but people in those areas need to keep an open eye and a keen ear,” a San Diego County Sheriff's deputy said. “They're up to something and I know I'm getting real nervous.”
© 2000 Strategic Jungle Syndicate
Scott Gulbransen is an executive in one of the country's top Public Relations firms. He has been the host of his own radio show and has written articles for several newspapers.
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#214392 - 06/13/01 06:06 AM
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Alright, last post to this for now. I've contacted the news papers I knew carried some of this information and asked if there were follow ups.
Basically, I believe that we will see an "invasion" of US soil sometime in the next year to year and a half, if they are going to do it.
I believe Cuba, China, perhaps North Korea and perhaps even Russia are involved in plans to assist in the destablization of the US economy, as well as put us into "alert mode", placing troops within our own borders, perhaps even taking portions of our land and holding it for as long as possible.
Whether this is something they would do to get us off guard, or whether it is a diversion for something bigger, I don't know yet. As it is I am guessing now, but... the plan would be pretty easy to pull off.
You can hit military installations with small groups of forces, and take one within hours. That's a fact and any military person (except of course the actual security forces on an installation) who've ever worked in the past 10 - 20 years at a US base KNOW what security is like. Secuity forces will tell you no one will get through.. but that isn't completely accurate.
I have some former Special Forces buddies who say they can take five men and take a whole base in a matter of an hour. I'd have to see that to believe it, but I'm sure well trained men could take a large installation in no time (definately a larger force would be needed).
Moving them would be no problem. They are already infiltrating as "illegal aliens". Look at the number of Chinese and Mexicans (perhaps Cubans?) who come over EVERY SINGLE DAY!
I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm way, way off the mark... but.. since this is a survival board, I need to bring these things up. Post your replies here, speculations, ideas and even your counter-intelligence (that says it won't happen).
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#214393 - 06/13/01 07:00 AM
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I guess I am not as far off the mark as I thought. I remember hearing something about this as well, but never really put it together. Check this link out:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21253
'Wasp Network' stung in Miami
Cuban spies 'wage war against the people of the U.S.'
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By Toby Westerman
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The exposure and ongoing trial of a Cuban spy ring has revealed the largest espionage cell in the U.S. since the collapse of the Soviet Union, yet most of the establishment press -- with the exception of the Miami Herald -- has given scant coverage to the issue.
Five members of a 14-member espionage team called "La Red Avispa" -- the Wasp Network -- are on trial in a Miami federal courtroom following an exhaustive FBI investigation.
The Wasp Network engaged in a wide range of activities, including locating vulnerable points of entry into the state of Florida for the importation of arms and explosives, infiltration of the U.S. Southern Command, and the attempted subversion of anti-Communist organizations in the U.S.
After breaking up the network's operations in September 1998, the FBI amassed some 10,000 pages of information on the Cuban espionage cell. Federal agents discovered that, among other projects, the members of the spy network counted planes outside a military base, attempted to send a letter-bomb to an anti-Castro activist, and placed one of their number -- employed as a custodian -- at the Boca Chica base of the Southern Command to observe military activity there.
Of the original 14, four fled and are believed to be in Cuba, five pleaded guilty and five have declared their innocence. Those pleading innocent said they were only keeping an eye on the anti-communist Cuban exiles.
Although the ring was engaged in classic acts of espionage, those who pleaded guilty, as well as the defendants standing trial, are not facing charges of spying, but rather are being charged as "unregistered foreign agents."
The reputed spymaster of the Wasp Network, Gerardo Hernandez, is facing murder charges. Hernandez, who is also a captain in Cuba's military intelligence, is charged with the deaths of four men shot down by Cuban MiG aircraft over the Florida Straits in February 1996.
The four men who were shot down had been members of the Cuban exile group, Brothers to the Rescue, which seeks to aid those opposed to the regime of Cuban President Fidel Castro.
Federal prosecutors allege that Hernandez provided the Cuban government with the flight plans of the plane the men were flying, enabling easy interception.
Sentences for those pleading guilty have run from 3½ to 7 years in prison, despite pleas of contrition. According to a Miami Herald report, two of the confessed spies, Linda Hernandez and her husband Nilo, profess to having found a new appreciation for God and freedom.
Hernandez recounted that her espionage career began in 1992, when Cuban intelligence directed that she and her husband were to move from New York City to Miami.
Although born in the U.S., Hernandez returned to Cuba shortly before the communist takeover, and spent her youth in Cuba, returning to the U.S. in the mid-'80s. In declaring her sorrow for her actions, Hernandez stated that the Cuban government "controlled every move and thought" of those living under it.
How deeply Cuban foreign intelligence has penetrated into the United States remains unclear. When WorldNetDaily asked about other Cuban intelligence cells in the U.S., Miami FBI spokeswoman Judy Orihuela refused to speculate on their existence or possible extent of activities.
Although FBI documentation on the Wasp Network is voluminous, Orihuela is unable to comment about the impact of the group on U.S. security, as trial judge Joan A. Lenard has issued a "gag order" on all aspects of the proceedings. Similarly, the U.S. attorney's office is unable to comment on the spy trial.
When contacted by WND, Mariela Ferrentti, spokeswoman for the Cuban American National Foundation, a leading Cuban exile group, declared "vindication of the Cuban American community" based upon what has already come to light from the investigation of the Wasp Network.
Ferrentti says what is currently known about Cuban intelligence activities is "nowhere near" the actual lengths "to which [Cuban] agents are going [in order] to wage war against the people of the U.S."
The trial of the Wasp Network members comes at a particularly inopportune time for the Cuban government. Havana is concentrating on the abolition of U.S. sanctions against the island -- described as "genocidal" by the Cuban government, despite a 5.6 percent increase in its gross domestic product this year -- and the repeal of the Cuban Adjustment Act, which allows asylum for any Cuban reaching U.S. land.
The Wasp Network's activities, however, take on a special relevance in light of the visit last month in Cuba of the chief of the general staff of China's Peoples Liberation Army. While in Havana, Gen. Fu Quanyou proclaimed that he hoped his visit would "strengthen bilateral ties between both [Cuban and Chinese] armies [which are] in search of the common goal of building socialism."
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#214394 - 06/13/01 07:01 AM
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=20922
And this one.... China involved with Cuba...
Beijing gives boost to Fidel
China helps Cuba get current on communications technology
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By Toby Westerman
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With all the attention paid to the immigration tragicomedy involving Elian Gonzalez, little notice has gone to Cuba's move to modernize its telecommunications and computer capabilities -- or its attempt to develop an advanced electronics industry on the island nation with China's help.
Wu Jichuan, head of Beijing's Information Industry Ministry, led a delegation from China on a recent three-day visit to Cuba, according to Radio Habana Cuba, the official broadcasting service of the Cuban government.
Cuban President Fidel Castro congratulated the Chinese delegation for its efforts and for China's continued "solidarity" with Havana. According to Castro, relations between the two communist nations "have never been better."
"China will play a decisive role in the improvement of Cuban telecommunications," said Wu. Concluding the visit, the two nations signed a cooperation protocol in the areas of information and communications technology.
Wu has been successful in greatly expanding advanced communications technology within mainland China, as well as keeping that technology firmly in under governmental control -- especially the Internet.
The Chinese delegation's visit comes at a time when Cuba seeks to end the 40-year U.S. embargo against the island. There is increasing pressure from U.S. business and agricultural communities to begin brisk trade with Cuba and take advantage of a new and potentially highly profitable market.
A delegation from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, led by Chamber of Commerce Vice President Craig Johnstone, arrived in Cuba the same day the Chinese delegation departed. Johnstone's visit successfully "refined" agreements previously concluded at last year's Chamber of Commerce visit to the island.
"Now we're ready to move," Johnstone stated, adding that he received "excellent cooperation from the government of Cuba" and had "excellent meetings" with various Cuban officials. If he can obtain permission from the U.S. government, Johnstone says he is planning to bring a delegation of Cuban business leaders to the U.S.
Cuba seeks to attract foreign investment and has patterned its own brand of economic reform based upon China's experience. In 1995, Castro visited China and stated that China's experiment with market reform was "an example" for the Cuban government.
While many hope Cuba will follow the Chinese model of market reforms -- with a "subversive exhibit" of "anti-socialist and pro-capitalist art" recently closed after Cuban authorities learned of it -- many are also concerned that Fidel's island nation will continue to follow the Chinese model of political repression.
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#214395 - 06/13/01 07:05 AM
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And one more, this time from the Washington Times. The "COSCO" mentioned in the article is exactly the SAME Cosco that we prevented from getting the Naval base in California a couple years ago. About 20,000 people, including myself, brought it to the attention of the Congress, and the "deal" the US Govt. had with China, to turn over this old base (Longbeach I believe it was) was stopped cold. The article below was posted YESTERDAY. Think about it...
Cosco wanted to get into the US... to ship what? Guns into our country for their insurgents already here?????
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20010612-12097216.htm
China secretly shipping Cuba arms
By Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
China is shipping arms and explosives to Cuba in a sign of increased military cooperation between Beijing and Havana, The Washington Times has learned.
At least three arms shipments were traced from China to the Cuban port of Mariel over the past several months. All the arms were aboard vessels belonging to the state-owned China Ocean Shipping Co. (Cosco), according to U.S. intelligence officials.
Intelligence officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity said details of the arms shipments are sketchy but all involved a "known Chinese arms dealer" who arranged the transfers.
One of the cargoes was described as dual-use explosives and detonation cord. The explosives were said to be "military-grade" material.
The latest shipment took place in December. That arms delivery coincided with the visit to Cuba in late December by China´s military chief of staff, Gen. Fu Quanyou. Gen. Fu signed a military cooperation agreement with Havana aimed at modernizing Cuba´s outdated Russian weapons.
The arms shipments to Cuba could lead to the imposition of economic sanctions on China and Cosco, according to U.S. officials.
A 1996 amendment to the 1962 Foreign Assistance Act requires that economic sanctions be imposed on any nation or company that provides lethal military assistance to a nation designated as a state sponsor of terrorism. Cuba is on the State Department´s list of nine nations designated as supporters of global terrorism.
Sanctions would disrupt a major portion of the U.S.-Chinese shipping market controlled by Cosco, whose business lines include port terminals and warehousing, insurance, real estate and hotel management.
Cuba has been increasing its ties to China in recent months. In April, Chinese President Jiang Zemin traveled to Havana and signed agreements worth about $400 million in loans to Havana.
Other Chinese activities in Cuba include electronic eavesdropping on the United States and Chinese government radio broadcasting, according to U.S. officials familiar with intelligence reports. China also recently agreed to modernize Cuba´s telecommunications network.
A CIA spokesman declined to comment on the arms shipments.
Spokesmen for Cosco could not be reached for comment.
Wei Jiafu, Cosco group president and chief executive officer, told reporters and editors of The Washington Times on June 2 that the shipping line has no connection to the Chinese military and is only interested in making money.
Mr. Wei insisted during the interview that the People´s Liberation Army had no influence on the company´s operations or global business strategy.
However, the shipper´s only shareholder is the Chinese government.
Mr. Wei and other Cosco officials were in the United States to meet port officials in Massachusetts, where they had reached an agreement with the Massachusetts Port Authority to begin a weekly shipping service between Shanghai and Boston beginning next year.
Cosco has been linked in the past by U.S. intelligence agencies to illegal smuggling and international arms trafficking.
James Mulvenon, a China analyst with the RAND Corp., said that the Chinese Communist Party´s military organ approved establishment of Cosco as an arm of the Chinese navy in 1985.
Mr. Mulvenon stated earlier this year, in his book "Soldiers of Fortune," that Cosco´s establishment "legitimized the use of navy ships for civilian shipping and thus provided a legal cover for the navy´s smuggling."
The Chinese navy was linked in 1985 to illegal smuggling in foreign cars, vans, TVs and VCRs out of Hainan island in the South China Sea, he wrote.
In 1998, U.S. intelligence agencies tracked a Cosco freighter from Shanghai to Karachi, Pakistan, with a load of weapons-related goods, including specialty metals and electronics used in the production of Chinese-designed Baktar Shikha anti-tank missiles.
The shipment was carried aboard a vessel owned by the company subsidiary Cosco Tianjin.
The arms transfers by Cosco ships contradict statements to Congress made in 1997 by National Security Adviser Samuel R. Berger, who told senators there was no credible evidence linking Cosco to illegal activity, including arms smuggling.
Edward Timperlake, a former House committee investigator, said a Cosco executive was among a group of Chinese officials who were granted access to the White House and to Mr. Clinton´s weekly radio address in 1995 -- days after Democratic Party fund-raiser Johnny Chung made a large payment to the White House for the president´s re-election campaign.
The visit was checked by White House National Security Council aide Robert Suettinger, who wrote in a memorandum that giving White House photographs to the group of Chinese officials and Chung, who in 1998 pleaded guilty to making illegal campaign contributions, would not cause "any lasting damage to U.S. foreign policy."
Mr. Suettinger, who described Chung as a "hustler," also stated in a White House memo: "And to the degree it motivates him to continue contributing to the [Democratic National Committee], who am I to complain," Mr. Suettinger said.
"Cosco is the merchant marine arm of the PLA Navy," Mr. Timperlake said. "If the Chinese military ever mobilized troops for action against Taiwan, Cosco would be part of the operation."
Cosco ships would provide arms and logistics support for Chinese military operations, U.S. officials said.
Al Santoli, a national security aide to Rep. Dana Rorhabacher, said Cosco is well-known for worldwide support of Chinese weapons sales.
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#214396 - 06/13/01 07:34 AM
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Bush plans "Global Quick Strike Force" that will be able to set up within 24 hours. Currently, if we were attacked on the ground, it would be 72 hours before we could mount a massive return strike on attacking forces. In the mean time, small groups of military members at bases around the US wouldbe called into action (including Reserves and National guards personnel).
Americans who are armed (and there are a lot of them) would join in the defense of our countryside... but these forces would have to hold off the incoming attacking army for many hours, before air strikes and intelligence could confirm the location, existence and purpose of the attackers.
See the article though, above. It IS related to this I believe in that the US Government SEES this problem and is working to deal with it, though, not relating this information to the possibility of attacks here in the US, like I am doing.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/frame/direc...-2001Jun12.html
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#214397 - 06/13/01 08:49 AM
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I have not read all of your info yet.
I started tending to think that it's entirely possible that gangs involved with drugs or smuggling as a quick way to make money may be involved.
I can not rule out that possibility, that to me, it would have more to do with drug traffiking than a armed invasion.
Yes, that would also affect the economy, since the US has the people that are interested in wasting their money on drugs.
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Rick Donaldson
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Here is information on the COSCO fiasco.
http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=1999/3/9/164928
http://38.201.154.103/articles/?a=1999/3/9/91911
Russia and China Prepare for War -- Part 2
Clinton's Sell-Out of America
Christopher Ruddy
March 10, 1999
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Clinton's Sell-Out of America
It seems incredible, but it's true: Clinton has released
classified missile technology to China after receiving
political contributions from the communist Chinese
... he has allowed China to take control of port cities
on both ends of the strategically-vital Panama Canal
... and Clinton has allowed the Russians and Chinese
access to sensitive missile bases, command centers,
and shipyards.
Here are the shocking facts:
CLINTON URGED TURNOVER OF LONG
BEACH PORT TO THE RED ARMY
When I was in Long Beach a few years ago, local
papers were filled with stories of leasing huge
military facilities to the Communist Chinese. Here's
how the deal was structured:
COSCO -- the Chinese Overseas Shipping
Company, a subsidiary of China's People's
Liberation Army -- would be allowed to lease the
navy shipyards in Long Beach, California for 16
annual payments of $14.5 million a year (total: $232
million). The deal would also have required the Port
of Long Beach to spend $235 million to modernize
the facilities. In other words, the PLA would have
been handed former US naval facilities in Long
Beach at a cut-rate cost while taxpayers forked over
$235 million to upgrade the facility for the Chinese.
Under a Department of Transportation subsidy
program, US taxpayers would have also subsidized
87% of the $157 million cost of COSCO building
four new container ships.
What do the Communist Chinese plan to do with the
facilities and ships?
Here's one example:
AUTHORIZED IMPORTATION OF 100,000
CHINESE COMBAT RIFLES
In 1996, soon after Clinton had signed a law
outlawing importing foreign semi-automatic
weapons into the US, he signed a waiver allowing
the Chinese Overseas Shipping Co. -- COSCO (a
subsidiary of the Red Army) -- to allow them to
import 100,000 semi-automatic military rifles into
the US, as well as millions of rounds of ammunition.
Not content to just bring in semi-automatic weapons,
COSCO also tried to smuggle in 2,000 illegal, fully
automatic Chinese AK-47s. According to press
reports, these weapons were destined to be sold to
street gangs in Oakland. That seems like a phony
cover story. We still need to know why China tried
to smuggle into California enough weapons to equip
an army.
CLINTON OPEN US TO RUSSIA AND CHINA
On May 13, 1997, Defense Secretary Cohen signed a
military cooperation agreement with Russia. Under
the agreement, US and Russian forces would work
together on over 100 exercises in 1997 alone. These
exercises include joint troop movements, "urban
pacification," and US advice for Russian forces
killing rebels in Chechnya.
After signing the cooperation agreement, Russian
Defense Minister Igor Rodionov toured the National
Military Command Center and met with the Joint
Chiefs of Staff in secret.
In January 1998, Secretary Cohen also signed an
agreement to allow cooperation between the US and
Chinese militaries.
ALLOWING RUSSIANS TO PHOTOGRAPH
US MILITARY BASES
Under the Open Skies Treaty, Russian military
planes began flying over and photographing US
military bases last year. Chinese military aircraft will
be allowed to fly over US military bases beginning
in 1999. Information Russia and China obtain from
these flyovers would be invaluable if they ever
attack the US.
GIVES CONTROL OF THE PANAMA CANAL
TO CHINA
The Panama Canal is probably the single most
strategically-important piece of real estate in the
Western Hemisphere. The US has fought two wars --
in which thousands of Panamanians and hundreds
of Americas have died -- to control the Canal. Now
it's being handed to the Communist Chinese on a
silver platter.
President Clinton has allowed a company controlled
by Chinese communists -- Hutchinson-Whampoa
Ltd. -- to take control of the Canal cities at both ends
of the Canal. Further, under Panamanian Law #5,
Hutchinson-Whampoa will determine which ships
are allowed to enter the Canal and many of the
Canal's operations. This is utterly absurd and
frightening.
Admiral Thomas Moorer, former Chairman of the
Joint Chiefs, reminded Congress last summer that
"the defense and use of the Panama Canal is
wrapped inextricably with the overall global strategy
of the United States and the security of the free
world."
Moorer vehemently opposed the turnover of the
canal to the Chinese, saying it was vital for US oil
supplies, and for the transit for US ships and troops
in a war, and described the Canal as "essential" in
any "military conflict -- past, present, or future."
US SELLS STRATEGIC WEAPONS
TECHNOLOGY TO CHINA
On March 23, 1998, The Washington Times revealed
a secret Clinton Administration proposal to sell
advanced missile technology to China.
Under Clinton, 47 supercomputers have been sold to
China, most for use by the Red Army -- the butchers
of Tibet and Tiananmen Square. These US
computers can be used to target nuclear missiles at
America and to build design new and more
powerful nuclear weapons.
Read the whole series: Russia and China Prepare
for War, Parts I-VIII.
Revisit Christopher Ruddy's interview with Russian
defector Stanislav Lunev Defector Reveals Russian
War Plans.
[ June 13, 2001: Message edited by: Rick Donaldson ]
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