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#212899 - 09/10/02 09:57 PM Reversals of RCH
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More reversals on richard hoagland have been uploaded to the reverse speech site - what do you all think - http://www.reversespeech.com/rch.htm
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#212900 - 09/15/02 05:22 PM Re: Reversals of RCH
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I see RCH has cast TEM forum adrift - let me remind everyone that you saw his feelings for the conference in his speech reversals first, posted a few days before the link to the conference was taken off his site. makes you wonder about the accuracy of his other reversals, doesnt it?

"I also want to say hullo to all the people in the enterprise chat room and the enterprise conference, cos we have an awful lot of members."
They're ****ed

http://www.reversespeech.com/rch.htm

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#212901 - 09/15/02 09:44 PM Re: Reversals of RCH
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Another hit for Reverse Speech!! - the following post was justmade on TEM's new forum....

"Neither the ASU/NASA nor the TEM THEMIS IR images are worth diddley squat in performing scientific data analysis.

Why?

"Because none of the IR (InfraRed) Frequency bands are present in the images. Just Kodak images. CCD (Charged Coupled Device) camera images with each stripe being the same image but through a different optical filter.

The IR Band data won't bereleased until 30 October 2002. (I think that's what I read there).

There is NO WAY either of these images could be processed for "intelligence data"."

Sooooo, If this is correct then there is no IR data on RCH's images. Is this what this reversal means?? "Fakes damn it. They're not red" - and seeing this reversal is before the fact, did RCH know it beforehand but rushed to publicity with it anyway?

"...if you cant get into enterprise directly go art bell dot com, Keith i believe has kindly provided a link to the paper..." Fakes, damn it. They're not red

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#212902 - 09/16/02 07:48 AM Re: Reversals of RCH
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Interesting stuff Redwolfe. When I get time, I'll listen again.



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#212903 - 09/17/02 08:07 PM Re: Reversals of RCH
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#212904 - 09/20/02 12:46 PM Re: Reversals of RCH
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David,

Very interesting indeed and thank you for you work!
I guess it just isn’t time yet, but it seems that the way the prophecy and tools
alike (aka RS, RV…) work for us at this point in time is that they become useful
as a confirmation tool in most of the cases.

I’m sure I’m not correct on this and just need to research it more, but I’m yet to see
one of this tools to “predict” something clearly before hand and not the other way around.

David please feel free to elaborate on this. Does it seem to you that way as well?
My take on it is that it’s so because we’re at the extremely early stages of understanding
how these absolutely incredible “tools” work.

Thanks for your work again.

Best,
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#212905 - 09/20/02 02:13 PM Re: Reversals of RCH
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I presume you are referring to the benefit of hindsight - its easy to look back on the data and see how the event was predicted in it, but not easy to look at the data beforehand and predict the outcome.

Thats one of the problems in interrpeting archtetypal images, and this is an issue that plages all "future telling technologies" - the unconscious mind communicates primarily in metaphor or pictures - interpreting these pictures becomes as skilled a task as finding them in the first place.

All I can say is that i get better at it with time, by monitoring the correct outcomes of my work and them looking at the reversals that led to that. Many times you have to try and step inside the mind of the speaker. Its a little easier with RS cos you have the forward dialogue to check back on and that gives you a greater reference point.

For example the reversal on RCH "Fakes damn it. they're not red." - that was a pretty straight forward reversal and led me to immediately doubt the validity of the images he was presenting, as that is what he was talking about forward.

RS is also tougher, cos you have the sort out what is a transient thought and what is a definite plan.

As with all things, the answer lies in experience and open questioning, and being able to recognise both your mistakes and errors in interpreting the data

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#212906 - 09/20/02 04:13 PM Re: Reversals of RCH
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quote:
Originally posted by RedWolfe:
...the unconscious mind communicates primarily in metaphor or pictures...

Why do you think that is?
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#212907 - 09/21/02 02:21 PM Re: Reversals of RCH
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Why does the unconscious communicate in pictures? I'm not too sure exactly why. Thats a bit like asking why did the ancient egyptians use hyerglyphics (spelling?). Maybe its a universal language that crosses language boundaries. I personally believe that the pictures of RS relate to the WORD of the Bible. The power is in the picture. Jesus taught in parables, or pictures. I think that is how we learn best - is through pictures.

But its a great question - i'll be pondering that for weeks now.

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#212908 - 09/24/02 11:39 AM Re: Reversals of RCH
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quote:
Originally posted by RedWolfe:
Why does the unconscious communicate in pictures? I'm not too sure exactly why. Thats a bit like asking why did the ancient egyptians use hyerglyphics (spelling?).

When it comes to ancient records left by advanced ancient civilizations, the reason
for not leaving us a straight forward ‘blue print’ of their knowledge seems to be
the secrecy and the complexity of passing such knowledge to somebody they knew
wouldn’t be speaking their language…

quote:
Maybe its a universal language that crosses language boundaries.
That would make total sense IF the pictures would be straightforward…
The question here seems to be not about the pictures per se, but what those
pictures show.

You’re probably familiar with the dream interpretation and descriptions by Remote Viewers, Monro Institute folks and alike about symbolic representation of our
subconscious in altered states. But it isn’t always consistent. Sometimes what you see
is what you get, but more often you see something and only after the event happens
you’re capable of making sense of what your subconscious showed you symbolically.

So, why the inconsistency and why depending on the dept of the altered state the pictures become more or less literal? It seems that is because what we pick up MOST of the time is noise and or a different combination of it. I envision it as a bad reception on the TV channel. We get white snow and occasionally when TV set tries to reacquire the signal we get a picture, then the picture disappears and we get white noise, then we get a part of the picture again…

In other words it isn’t that we get abstract pictures because that is how this stuff works, but because we can’t acquire a strong consistent signal. So, either our protocols are faulty and or our receiver is broken or not tuned properly. It seems that the later is the case.

quote:
Jesus taught in parables, or pictures.
It seems the reason he did is two fold.
Because he was basically going against religious establishment at the time, he needed to say things in not so obvious way.
Because parables sometimes are easier to understand, but I’m not sure I agree that parables are pictures per se.

quote:
But its a great question - i'll be pondering that for weeks now
Me too

Best,
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